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Initial Android 19 and 20 powers
Topic Started: Oct 23 2012, 06:05 PM (1,508 Views)
Ryuuzaki Oct 23 2012, 06:05 PM Post #1
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 We don't have any good statement about their power.
I mean , they expected Goku to increase from higer 32.000 to , let's say , 5.000.000-10.000.000 at maximum.
Why 19 must be stronger than Frieza , or 20? I agree with 20 being stronger than Frieza and maybe 19 , but is any real statement ?
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Professor Gohan Oct 23 2012, 07:18 PM Post #2
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Well like someone said, 19 took some beatings that Frieza may not have been able to handle from a 3 year trained Super Saiyan like that. I can see 20 being stronger, because he was able to zap down Piccolo who is actually up there from his 3 year training as well. Being able to take on 20 later on who was able to absorb energy twice.
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+ miguelnuva Oct 23 2012, 07:28 PM Post #3
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 I have 19 below 50% Frieza and 20 just a little under Full power Frieza. Piccolo was around the Trunks saga SSJ's and Goku was already sick and winded before the fight.

Goku and Vegeta could have both one shoted 19 and 20 without the energy absorbing hands.
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manley0702 Oct 23 2012, 08:05 PM Post #4
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I have 19 as 1.3x Frieza and 20 at 1.5x Frieza. There is no question that SSJ Vegeta is a lot stronger than SSJ Goku was on Namek, and he handled 19 only slightly easier than Goku handled Frieza.
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+ miguelnuva Oct 24 2012, 09:20 PM Post #5
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Oct 23 2012, 08:05 PM
I have 19 as 1.3x Frieza and 20 at 1.5x Frieza. There is no question that SSJ Vegeta is a lot stronger than SSJ Goku was on Namek, and he handled 19 only slightly easier than Goku handled Frieza.
19 never touched Vegeta.
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+ Kyouks Oct 24 2012, 09:23 PM Post #6
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Well like someone said, 19 took some beatings that Frieza may not have been able to handle from a 3 year trained Super Saiyan like that. I can see 20 being stronger, because he was able to zap down Piccolo who is actually up there from his 3 year training as well. Being able to take on 20 later on who was able to absorb energy twice.

19 only took the beating cuz he can't feel pain.

Meh, I tend to go with something like this:

Sick Goku (Initially) > Piccolo > Sick Goku (Tired) > 20 post > 20 pre >/=/< Yardrat Goku > 19 post > Mirai Trunks (@ Freeza) > 19 pre >/=/< Freeza > Sick Goku (post-KHH).

I can elaborate more on this if you want me to.
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+ Pyrus Oct 24 2012, 10:53 PM Post #7
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 I think #19 before any absorptions is around Mecha Freeza, maybe somewhat stronger. #20 before any absorptions is around SSjin Trunks IMO, at least. Just one blast from SSjin Vegeta and #20 was "quicker than [he] thought," pointing to #20 (w/Vegeta's chi) >>> #19 (post) >> SSjin Trunks (initial).
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+ Kyouks Oct 24 2012, 10:55 PM Post #8
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Oct 24 2012, 10:53 PM
I think #19 before any absorptions is around Mecha Freeza, maybe somewhat stronger. #20 before any absorptions is around SSjin Trunks IMO, at least. Just one blast from SSjin Vegeta and #20 was "quicker than [he] thought," pointing to #20 (w/Vegeta's chi) >>> #19 (post) >> SSjin Trunks (initial).
Do you know what Vegeta says about #20 before he absorbs anything at all?

I'm lookin' at the raw scan, and he looks all worried and he's shouting at Krillin for a Senzu. Is he just worried about replenishing his chi quickly, or is #20's speed already something impressive?
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+ Pyrus Oct 24 2012, 11:10 PM Post #9
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Oct 24 2012, 10:55 PM
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Oct 24 2012, 10:53 PM
I think #19 before any absorptions is around Mecha Freeza, maybe somewhat stronger. #20 before any absorptions is around SSjin Trunks IMO, at least. Just one blast from SSjin Vegeta and #20 was "quicker than [he] thought," pointing to #20 (w/Vegeta's chi) >>> #19 (post) >> SSjin Trunks (initial).
Do you know what Vegeta says about #20 before he absorbs anything at all?

I'm lookin' at the raw scan, and he looks all worried and he's shouting at Krillin for a Senzu. Is he just worried about replenishing his chi quickly, or is #20's speed already something impressive?
I'm pretty sure he just wants to hurry up and kill Gero. He's not worried about anything IIRC.

Edit: Well, except for the fact that #20 (pre) is stronger than Vegeta's post-19 power, otherwise there wouldn't have been a need to bluff his way out of the fight.
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+ Kyouks Oct 24 2012, 11:15 PM Post #10
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 K.

This'd be my final power chain in regards to 19/20 then...

FP Goku > Initial Sick Goku > Piccolo > Tiring Sick Goku > #20 post-Piccolo > #20 post-Vegeta > Yadrat Goku > #19 post-Vegeta > #19 post-Goku > #19 post-KHH > SSJ Mirai Trunks (@Freeza) > #19 pre >/=/< [SSJ Goku on Namek, Freeza, Mecha Freeza].
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beastboybrown Oct 25 2012, 04:07 AM Post #11
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 I think They already have a topic like this :/ Saying that androids shouldn't be higher then Frieza and there whole family. I know I just saw one.
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+ supersaqer Oct 25 2012, 08:57 PM Post #12
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Kamikaze Pyro, where would you rank initial Android 19?
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+ Pyrus Oct 25 2012, 09:06 PM Post #13
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 Around Mecha Freeza.^
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+ supersaqer Oct 26 2012, 12:30 PM Post #14
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Kamikaze Pyro
Oct 25 2012, 09:06 PM
Around Mecha Freeza.^
Whoops

I think #19 has the same advantage over Goku that Cell (suppressed) did, but Goku might figure something out.
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+ Kyouks Oct 26 2012, 02:07 PM Post #15
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 ^Opinions change.
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